Uptown Girl
Christian. BoyMom. Farmer's Wife. Marathon Runner. Ag Professional. Bourbon Lover.
Advocate for all things agriculture and rural.
Advocate for all things agriculture and rural.
Tunis Sheep Hampshires heed
9/7/2015 119 Comments Dear Consumer: They tell me not to get angry. But If I am honest, sometimes I do.Dear Concerned Consumer,
The marketing research tells me that I should focus on the positive when I address you. I shouldn’t talk about the environment, or the health of my soil – they say you do not care about those things. They tell me not to discuss the challenge of feeding the world. I should not detail the challenges of feeding my own family on a farmer’s income, with ever rising input costs, unpredictable weather patterns and buyer preferences that change with the direction of the wind. They tell me this doesn’t register with you. They tell me to only speak about things that directly impact you. They tell me not to talk about the science, because the emotional registers more. They tell me not to talk too long or write too much, you don’t have time. They tell me not to get angry. But if I am honest, sometimes I do. I get angry that you have time to read about the latest detox diets and “natural” foods, yet don’t have time to read how seed technology is increasing yields in developing nations, and helping us here at home to be better stewards of our land. I get angry that you are willing to pay a premium, up to 60%, on a product with a label that doesn’t even mean what you think it does. I get angry that you think “Big Agriculture” is waging some kind of war, but refuse to acknowledge the huge profits being made off those labels you are now demanding. I get angry that you demand “chemical free” farming, or even think that “chemical free” is possible. I get angry so many of you do not seem to know what a chemical is. I get angry that marketing hides that all types of farming – from organic to conventional – use chemicals. They do it SAFELY and minimally, but they use them. I get angry that you do not understand that farmers only provide raw product and that once it leaves our farm we are not responsible for what the food processors do to it. I get angry that you don’t celebrate the fact that you spend less than 10% of your disposable income on food, when people in other nations spend 40%. I get angry that you try to compare the decisions you make about your garden, to the management decisions my family has to make for our farm. If your garden has a bad crop, you go to the store. If we have a bad crop, we stand to lose our farm, our house, our source of income. If entire areas have bad crops, thousands are affected by supply and price. I get angry when you talk to a guy at the farmer’s market, who grows 40 organic tomato plants in his backyard where his 8 free range chickens live, and decide his opinion on agriculture policy is more trustworthy than mine. I get angry that you expect us to change our farming practices as frequently as you change your diet fads, and to make such changes without using any technology. I get angry that you demand “humane treatment” of livestock without having actually ever spent time with livestock. I get angry that you think my cattle herd needs the same treatment as your toy poodle. I get angry that you think I need to be told how to treat my animals, like PETA is going to offer some insight that years of working with and caring for these animals hasn’t already taught me. I get angry that you want the latest and greatest gadgets in every aspect of your life, and then expect me to put on overalls and grab a pitchfork, and farm the way someone told you that your great Grandfather did in the 1940’s. I get angry that you think it’s fair to demand farming practices match some romanticized version of an early era and are perfectly accepting of the fact these changes will take my land and water, which I now use to feed hundreds, and use it to feed only dozens. I get angry that you give more weight to Facebook memes than actual scientific studies. I get angry that you take Food Babe’s word, who has yet to actually set foot on a modern farm and literally has no qualifications to talk about the things she does, over nearly the entire scientific community. I get angry that you cannot tell the difference between credible science and bad science. Like the “GMO Pig Feed” study from Australia. Or the “Glyphosate toxicity” study in rats. I get angry that the real scientists even have to address claims from these studies. I get angry that you think there is some kind of war going on in rural America. That Monsanto has enslaved us all to fight their battle, and we are too “simple” to know any better. That conventional farmers are fighting with organic farmers. That big farmers are fighting with small farmers. I get angry you don’t actually come out to rural America and see that we are all here, like we always have been, farming side by side and eating lunch together at noon. The marketing research tells me you won’t have read this far down. If you have, I am actually trying to apologize for my anger. I KNOW it’s not your fault. I KNOW that modern agriculture has failed to tell our story and companies took advantage of that. I KNOW there is a ridiculous amount of information available that is often confusing and opposing. I KNOW we are a generation that didn’t get the core education we need to understand science. I KNOW that nothing sells in the media better than fear. I KNOW that most of you don’t know a farmer and that most of you have never set foot on a farm. I am apologizing for my anger. And I am going to continue to try and reach out, in a positive way. But I just want you to know, if my anger shows through and it feels like it’s at you, it’s not. It’s more at myself, and my industry, for not doing a better job of explaining the truth to you sooner. And yes, you do have the RIGHT to know. I just wish you had time for the whole story. Sincerely, An American Farm Wife
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Bailey
9/7/2015 08:17:02 pm
Gosh, can I relate. The part about consumers trusting some hobby farmer at the farmers market with a dozen "free-range, heritage" chickens in his backyard about modern ag issues. All the while telling me, a 4th generation farmer, with a degree in Animal Science, that I don't know how to raise my own livestock?! My blood starts to boil as I discuss issues and attempt to educate them, usually combatting random, non-scientific online articles they have read lately. It is frustrating, discouraging and hard. I appreciate you taking your time to write this.
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Kate
9/7/2015 08:30:54 pm
Exactly Bailey! Thank you for visiting and sharing your story!
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Sue carter
9/9/2015 09:59:30 pm
I get angry that the Cattlemens Association wants to add horsemeat to hamburger.
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9/7/2015 08:33:56 pm
Thank You Thank You Thank You! This could have came from my keyboard. We are cotton farmers and we too struggle to not be angry with the distrust we are met with while watching the trust that is given to someone with a Facebook page or a few tomato plants. They seem to think that trying to farm out here next to the largest desert in North America is no different than where it "actually" rains. Again, Thank You!
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Kate
9/7/2015 08:40:50 pm
Thanks for visiting Suzie! It's popular hobby now to "farm" and it seems everyone is an expert! Thank you for sharing your story!
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Venus
9/7/2015 08:55:39 pm
I appreciate this post & your insight. This has been an area of a lot of personal research for me of late because I feel like I haven't been getting the entire picture. I am thankful for people like you who are willing to stand up and tell their truth in the noise of so much bull shit. I think we're all tired of the lies and manipulations.
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Kate
9/7/2015 08:57:43 pm
Venus!!! You restore my faith in the consumer! THANK YOU for taking the time to try and get the whole picture!!!!
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Connie
9/7/2015 10:24:06 pm
Bravo! Please share this information with your friends and family, Venus. Thank you for taking time to be an informed consumer.
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colin
9/15/2015 01:53:41 pm
Why don't you try to inform us about your safe farming practices, and humane animal treatment instead of being angry and touting seed technology that you have done no research on. If we shouldn't ask the small farmer who grows just his own tomatoes about large scale farming, which is not his expertise, why should we trust large scale farmers about biochemistry and the long term effects of genetically modified food on the human body? Unless you have published peer reviewed studies on the subject, I think the guy at the farmers market with the tomatoes is a better source of information on farming than you are on biochemistry.
Caroline Csak
9/7/2015 08:56:51 pm
I came here from "Nurse Loves Farmer"
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Kate
9/7/2015 10:43:36 pm
Thank you so much Caroline!
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Kristen
9/7/2015 09:12:56 pm
Wonderful post! I love hearing from the people who bring our food to our tables!
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Karin Lewis
9/7/2015 09:16:11 pm
Fabulous post. You are expressing the opinions of millions of farmers and their families, throughout North America (and beyond, I bet). Well said.
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Kate
9/7/2015 10:44:14 pm
Karin! It's so nice to know others share some of my frustrations! Thank you for visiting!!
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Texan
9/7/2015 09:20:25 pm
Great post! And spot on. I'm a rural gardener, not a farmer, but even so I spend obscene amounts of time trying to educate my fellow, usually suburban, gardeners about the realities modern ag - fighting the woo sources with all of their fear mongering memes. Keep up the fight!
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Pete Barker
9/7/2015 09:21:09 pm
Thanks so much for writing this so eloquently. I honestly believe that if both sides of this argument started getting their information directly from family farmers instead of silly internet memes, this whole non-issue would go away. Keep writing.
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Christine
9/7/2015 09:27:42 pm
Thank you SO much for posting this! We're a farming family as well and I couldn't have said these words better myself.
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9/7/2015 09:44:53 pm
well written! You expressed emotions that I think all farmers are feeling these days. Fighting the misinformation seems like a never ending battle some days.
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Betsy
9/7/2015 09:45:43 pm
Yes!
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Erin
9/7/2015 10:01:32 pm
Thank you! I'm always surprised when someone is trying to tell me how great their organic cucumber is. From Mexico. Yes, because they are checking to see its organic how? And then when you ask them how they fertilized it. And smirk. Cause I figure it's probably human feces. And if you ask someone how many GMO fruits/veggies/grains there are. And why they were modified. Most of them have no clue. Or have ever grown a plant. I grew a small garden this year (24 feet x 24 feet) and needless to say in MI it was a bad year between the rain, weeds, and critters. I only wish I could of sprayed some weed killer on them!
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Braasch Land and Livestock
9/7/2015 10:04:34 pm
THIS! You nailed it. Thank you.
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Carrie Davis
9/7/2015 10:11:10 pm
Thanks, may it go viral.
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Tami Wright
9/7/2015 10:51:46 pm
I love this - well said! I have a little 9-acre "farm" that I run before and after my day job. Ok, not so much "farm" as "garden" with 0a horse, a couple of mini donkeys, 6 chickens, 2 dogs, and 2 cats and a whole bunch of squash, tomatoes, cukes, peppers, and herbs that are DEAD because I had no idea the big oak tree in the back yard would not be so sympatico with the veggies. Last year, when my garden was away from the trees and up the hill I lost the battle to the rabbits. And here we all thought it would be the drought in central California that would doom us. I usually just shake my head at my urban-dwelling friends who think we should all learn to survive off their roof-top hydroponic organic heirloom ggardens, and can't figure out why I can't just spontaneously take off for a weekend. This time, I'll just share your blog - it is so much kinder than my usual rant about "expensively-outfitted-in-REI-using-an-app-to-tell-them-when-to-water-the-ficus" city-folk. The real farmers I know around here are much like you, and I hope your post helps more people understand that. Still wish I could grow a decent pumpkin patch though... ;-)
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Kate
9/7/2015 10:54:35 pm
Hi Tami!! Thanks for visiting and telling your story. I wish more people would garden or have small farms like yours. It would give people a little glimpse into so many of the challenges we face that are completely beyond our control.
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William
9/7/2015 11:21:24 pm
Excellent!!! As a farmer and someone with three degrees in agriculture and animal science, I will share this far and wide.
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Nancy Hood
9/7/2015 11:23:42 pm
Hey Farm Wife,
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Kate
9/8/2015 09:38:06 am
Thanks Nancy!!!!!
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Kelly
9/7/2015 11:29:00 pm
Thanks for the well-written post. I often think exactly the same things, but get so frustrated that I can never clearly voice my thoughts.
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Marc
9/7/2015 11:36:10 pm
Bloody marvellous! I hate these know-it-all locals who seem to think they can upscale their amateur hour operation to a full-scale commercial operation.
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Sara McKeefer
9/8/2015 12:31:17 am
Kudos for speaking the truth, and you were right on the money!
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Meg
9/8/2015 06:59:27 am
Fantastic! Thank you for putting this out there!
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9/8/2015 07:18:51 am
Well said. Yes, I do know a farmer. Yes, I have taken my kids to a real farm to see what life is all about. I appreciate what you do and will stop and think more about the life's work that you do.
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Kate
9/8/2015 08:04:52 am
Margarita- Thank YOU for taking the time to take your kids to a farm!!! Thanks for visiting!
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Ned
9/8/2015 07:35:33 am
So well said. Thank you.
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Gail
9/8/2015 08:37:04 am
This is a great article. I am a 4th generation farmer and I know the struggle with the possibility of crops failing and people not understanding. I tell people "Oh we just got 15,000 plants and got them in the ground in one day." and they are amazed and think that it is an amazing number and that we are doing great. But what they don't see is the lack of rain that causes a good portion of those plants to die in the fields. Or the 250 gallons of fuel it takes to run the pumps to pump water on those fields to desperately try to keep that crop alive. They don't see that though we are not "organic" we try not to use all those "chemicals" that people are scared of. We try to use the safest means we know of to provide food for ourselves and our community. And they don't know that "organic" does not mean pesticide free they do not think of that. If they new what was in the chemicals that are used for "organic" farms they would not be so quick to judge other farmers. People need to be properly educated and speak to farmers who have generations of knowledge and not judge just because the farm is not organic. So thank you for saying what needs to be said. But like you said not many who are not farmers will actually read this article because they are too busy with their assumptions and "expertise/knowledge" that is not always accurate. Thank you for all you do and I hope that you and your family and your community have a prosperous rest of the growing season.
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Kate
9/8/2015 09:34:13 am
Thank you so much for the comments Gail! I love that you point out all the misunderstanding around chemical.
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Linda
9/8/2015 08:38:51 am
You hit the nail on the head. There is so much misconception out there. As recently retired dairy farmers, I still boil at "organic". That public thinks it's the only milk antibiotic free. ALL milk is antibiotic free. And we do not waste our $$ doling out unnecessary medications. If you are sick do you not eventually go to a doctor to be healed, often with medication? Yes, there is room for all farming but give the truth on it.
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Kate
9/8/2015 09:35:55 am
Linda!! I get upset as a row crop and beef farmer-- I cannot imagine the stress of dairy. It seems to be one sector hit the hardest by misconception with all the hormone and antibiotic labeling now.
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9/8/2015 09:36:48 am
Well done. I have been one of those "hobby Farmers" and was once fully vested in the organic ethos. However, I have a science background and have done business with some damed sharp farmers. Over the past year I have done the research and have come totally around. I now recognize the organic/natural movement as pure marketing scam. Keep up the good work - the truth must prevail.
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Kate
9/8/2015 09:39:27 am
Thanks for sharing William!!
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Gerry
9/8/2015 09:41:12 am
This is an informative article that I am proud to share on Facebook because it covers a lot of publicly held misconceptions about the farming industry. It would be beneficial to publicize some info, without prejudice, on what is allowed in the growing of "organic" produce. Maybe not many people would read through, but if it reaches only one person, it would get passed on to one more, and so on. I commend you for putting these observations in layman's terms. Thank you from Canada.
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Kate
9/8/2015 09:54:31 am
Thank you for visiting Gerry and thanks for sharing!!
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Kaiya
9/8/2015 09:50:15 pm
I would appreciate that. I'm getting tired of so much marketing and it's hard to know what's true and what's exaggerated, if not completely false. I'm pretty intelligent, but I'm not a scientist or agriculture professional. I'd love to know where to get reliable information, not fear-mongering.
Steven Rodgers
9/8/2015 10:05:40 am
Please don't assume that us "Whole Foods" shoppers are idiots either. We've all been eating our entire lives, and while not all of us have made a career of producing that food, as you have, this does not give you a monopoly of food knowledge.
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Kate
9/8/2015 10:11:56 am
Hi Steven! You make some excellent points. And I hope you realize I spend a majority of my time trying to reach out in a positive way.
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Kate
9/8/2015 10:13:39 am
I do feel the need to address food labeling though.
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Shawn Bowie
9/9/2015 12:31:36 am
Let me get this straight…you think that because you have been eating all your life, and have conducted occasional internet research on agriculture, food, and health, you have knowledge comparable to someone who has spent years devoting their study and career to these fields? If I knew it was that easy to become an expert, I wouldn't have bothered going to college for an AgEd degree, I would've went for an easier degree from the college of arts and humanities! You sound like any other stuck-up foodie who thinks they have beaten 'the man' by looking up wingnut articles and going to the whole foods market. You can buy whole foods from regular grocers (it doesn't even have to be Wal-Mart) and you will get a better price than most whole foods/organic markets. The experts don't have a monopoly on the knowledge, but they make the average Joe's knowledge seem infantismally small. If someone (the article writer) knows more than you do, it's in your best interest to listen and not complain over how much more intelligent in their field they are than you.
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Kayleigh
9/8/2015 10:51:26 am
Great post! I grew up on 500 acres with horses and beef cattle (even then I considered us hobbyists more than anything) and now I work in academia with industry and extension folks.
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Kate
9/8/2015 10:54:47 am
Thank you so much Kayleigh! I honestly think if everyone had to try a garden for one year they might understand a little bit better!! (Or it would make them all self proclaimed farming experts) I am not sure which.
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Amber
9/8/2015 11:21:25 am
Absolutely amazing! You are speaking the words that so many want to say and so very many need to hear!
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Sue Stuever Battel
9/8/2015 12:55:43 pm
Exactly. Every bit of it.
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Kate
9/8/2015 01:08:34 pm
So true Sue. I get so upset by people who cannot see how this technology could benefit the world. And then have the nerve to claim they support "sustainable" Ag.
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Joe
9/10/2015 05:13:09 pm
Great Technology there Kate!! please produce me some more milk - I hope you are able to get over 30,000 lbs/cow this year. we need cheaper milk at the store! I appreciate that you are adding more cows - I want cheaper cheese too! Please one more free stall - more corn in the diet - a few more DA surgeries - feed some more soy bypass - spray all that corn - I need you to work your butt off! lol - I want my yogurt for less!! I do know how hard you work - but is organic farming for those that farm smarter? Well, I guess you rely on that technology to HELP you - so good luck! 9/8/2015 01:32:08 pm
Kate...thanks for sharing your insight. I also am a farm appraiser, as well as a farmland broker and auctioneer. I am currently farming, as I have been since 1974. You're fighting the same kind of issues we were fighting 41 years ago, only on a much larger scale. If consumers think that glyphosphate is toxic, they should have been around when we had to use REAL toxic chemicals...like Randox T. Today pyrethroids are no more toxic than the Raid we use in our houses. This conversation reminds me of the words of former Secretary of Agriculture, Earl Butz, "if you take chemicals away from the farmer you will be putting the worm back in the apple and the rat shit back in the Wheaties."
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Will from Australia
9/9/2015 05:52:06 pm
I trust a farm that doesn't carefully use chemicals about as much as I'd trust a hospital that doesn't use antiseptics
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Stan Combs
9/8/2015 02:04:11 pm
I live on a small Canadian island that had an influx of "counterculture" people in the '70s whose influence remains strong. Their attitudes tend to be good about most things - except agriculture. Thinking with their hearts rather than their heads, they cling to a fantasy of "local self-sufficient" food production without realizing that model leads to man's old friend, famine, in the not-infrequent event of unfavourable weather or pests. Or, that "food miles" is exactly how the developed world has rid itself of famine while decreasing fossil fuel use and greenhouse gas production. Or, that Roundup and GMOs are correcting the greatest disaster that our prairie soils have suffered - the loss of organic matter and soil compaction by tillage weed control. Or that "Big Agra" is the basis of our civilization, affording us long lifespans, almost nil child mortality, interesting lives, and human rights, especially those of women. As I (with two Ag degrees and a career in Agriculture) can't keep quiet about this, people have started making the sign of the cross when I come near (well, not usually), but I'll post this link on our local Facebook page at the risk of being "voted off the island". It's a thankless task, but keep up your good work, Kate.
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Yasso Leung
9/8/2015 03:04:06 pm
As Kate pointed out, farmers sell the raw materials and have little control over the food processing & retailing industries. Any communication strategies targeting the consumers will need partnership with mainstream media e.g. CBC Market Place on labelling of so-called "organic" food. Anger & self-righteousness won't go too far.
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Rae
9/8/2015 02:07:48 pm
Preach!
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Bruce Edwards
9/8/2015 02:11:39 pm
I understand your point of view. I would appreciate your thoughts on the approach this farmer uses (link below). I will state right off that his farm is much smaller than yours and his aims are different.
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Kate
9/8/2015 02:27:31 pm
Hey Bruce! Thank you for visiting. I just briefly looked at the link you provided and will certainly read more in the near future. But I do have a few points from what I read briefly.
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Kate
9/8/2015 02:31:06 pm
Bruce - This was excellent. As a small business owner (not a farmer) I totally understand the lack of knowledge of how things work and why prices go up, especially for small shops. It's much like what you must experience when the public tries to tell you how to run your livelihood. My hat is of to you and all our farmers. We'd starve without you.
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9/8/2015 03:37:12 pm
Kate, great post, shared. You also are getting for the most part good comments. They haven't found you, yet. :-)
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Kate
9/8/2015 03:44:07 pm
Paul - thank you. And I am holding my breath waiting for the inevitable.....
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Jane
9/8/2015 04:38:41 pm
Thank you for this. I am not a farmer, but I know a lot of farmers and ranchers, and I know how much they care. Thank you for posting such an passionate and articulate article on the silliness of the current 'war on farmers'.
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Matthew
9/8/2015 05:44:37 pm
Hi. I always find blogs like this fascinating, because these are issues I have struggled with myself. I grew up on a large, "conventional" Midwestern farm full of corn, soybeans, and lots of "specialty crops" (e.g. contracted veggies like green beans for Green Giant), John Deere tractors and center-pivot irrigators watering several hundred acres. I have lived among subsistence farmers in sub-Saharan Africa, in New England where CSAs, farmer's markets and small/organic/local/etc. thrive, and in southern Arizona, which has an interesting mix of all of the above.
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Robin
9/8/2015 07:39:23 pm
Brilliant! Thank you so much! My husband was raised on (and of course worked) his family's dairy farm. And then graduated with a chemical engineering degree from one of the premier engineering schools in the country. And he gets so angry at the foolishness that some elite try to call science! I will absolutely recommend this article to him. Thank you for writing the truth so beautifully!
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Fred
9/8/2015 09:01:48 pm
Excellent post! I said some of the very things on my blog a week earlier. "Gardens aren’t small fields and fields aren’t big gardens." was my quote. "Each has their own style of management. If as a gardener you lose your tomato crop you maybe had a financial lose of $100 and will have to buy your canned tomatoes from the store. If a farmer loses their tomato crop there is no paycheck! But the bank loan for the plants, fertilizer and fuel still needs to be repaid."
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Mike
9/8/2015 09:48:26 pm
The old saying that every successful rancher has a wife with a really good job in town applies to me. She don't even understand what it takes most days. I've worked cattle, hay and other stuff since grandpa first stuck a muck fork in my hand 47 years ago. A few years ago the wife decided we should be self sustaining, so I quit hiring out and started clearing room on our 6 acres. First problem, my family has been farming and ranching for generations back to the 1800s, hers hasn't. After the first couple months instead of nodding and ignoring hers and her dads Internet research and Pinterest ideas, I started figuring out how to make it seem like my ideas were their ideas first. The second problem was start up costs, we already had a herd of organic Rhode Island Red hens that the shipper screwed up on to our benefit so organic certified feed costs us nothing. The crops we grow were on sale organic certified at our local nursery, so once again we got lucky. Third problem, our wonderful north California red clay, like I said, wife has a great job, but I can't justify buyin a tractor for only six acres. I rented a loader and scooped deep to get all the clay I could as deep as I could out of my planting areas and rebuilt the land from bedrock up topping it off with my own home made dirt made from all my organic material waste on the property, my pond silt and horse and chickin shit. After the first year of figuring out what we liked to eat versus what grew the best versus what canned the best versus what seed processed the best for the following year, we now have a pretty consistent year to year plan. We at one time thought it would be a good idea to sell extra crops at the farmers market, not such a great idea in our area, the amount of red tape and paperwork and fees is ridiculous and would add more cost than it would offset. Organic certification is something every one wants to see, but in my opinion it's a waste of money, like you said, everyone uses chemicals to one degree or another, I've seen that working for other people. BUT apparently the smaller the farm operation and the inclusion of farmers markets into the mix means NO chemicals or fertilizers of any kind unless they are on the special county list here in north California. Organic certification is a joke in my opinion. On the up side, my 12 hour work days are at home, I've figured out my ground and water without the useless help of the county ag department. I don't need pesticides because I have literally millions of small frogs that travel back and forth from the pond to my "gardens" keeping the bugs from getting anything, I have an amazing bee population and a resident deer herd to put in the freezer. Last year was the first year we did not go grocery shopping at the store at all. I can see all of your points and agree with them, I get a lot of questions from friends and comments, they think if I can do that that they should be able to, no matter what I tell them, they still don't understand that I was born this way from others that were born this way and so on, and I'm ready to change things when I see things going a different direction, ya gotta keep your land healthy too. Great blog and info
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Jay
9/8/2015 10:04:42 pm
I grew up in a farming community in Indiana - we had Drive Your Tractor to School Day at my HS. Every time I go back home I am amazed at the density and yield of the corn and soybean crops, as well as the health of the cattle. I'm proud that people I know are feeding the world. And I take every chance I get to inform the pseudo-science urban hipsters of all the ways they are misinformed. This article sums it up beautifully. Well done.
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Annabel Eyrick
9/8/2015 10:20:39 pm
Heart-felt and well said! Sad, that all of this is true yet so unknown. Thank you, and keep fighting the good fight. You're not alone! - an educated consumer
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Shawn Bowie
9/9/2015 12:41:18 am
Thank you for voicing the concerns of farmers and ranchers. It won't be easy, but we can win the fight against ignorance and fear!
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Will
9/9/2015 09:32:56 am
Well stated.... truth is truth no matter how one slices it. There is no comparison for the backyard 100 sq. ft. plotter with volume farming of acres and acres. Pests are pests and must be dealt with. The field pests are more damaging than the media & urban pests. Thanks for sharing!!!
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Liz H
9/9/2015 09:41:54 am
Hi, Kate. Thanks for this great post. I'm a copy editor, and I wanted to do my part supporting you by pointing out a few typos, so your excellent message doesn't get dismissed by someone who gets distracted by a typographical error. Changes in caps. Thanks for all your hard work!
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Kate
9/9/2015 09:45:17 am
Liz- I am on it! Thank you!
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9/9/2015 10:03:15 am
Thank you for saying what so many of us feel! Excellent post!
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Kristi
9/9/2015 12:00:43 pm
I appreciate this post so very much! We are pear and cherry growers in Washington state, and I really relate to several of your points.
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Kate
9/9/2015 01:10:26 pm
Kristi,
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9/9/2015 03:20:51 pm
From a producer, blogger, mom, ranch wife,.....Thank YOU!!!
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Ross Fuchs
9/9/2015 07:42:18 pm
Exactly whom are you angry at? So many angry statements, I lost touch! Is it organic producers? Is it the retail chain? Is it the consumer? Who is this "they" that you keep referencing? Are you angry that your return isn't great enough?
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Helena Handbasket
9/9/2015 08:27:34 pm
First three words - Dear Concerned Consumer. And let me add - In farming, we don't get to chose who the end-users of our products are. If we did, some people, you perhaps, would be very hungry.
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Sue Stuever Battel
9/9/2015 08:36:23 pm
It's a rhetorical question. Maybe it's you?
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Ross
9/10/2015 01:43:53 pm
Thnx Helena and Sue! Still no clarity as to what the problem is. Kate has a valid point as to consumer awareness! Natural foods are not regulated so buyer beware. It came from the ground or off a vine or tree. Some chains have Natural product lines. Organic products will have one or more certification stamps plus a lot number. This food is traceable from producer to consumer. Kate is wrong when she stated that everyone uses chemicals (in the production of food). Organic production prohibits this. If you want to buy organic look for the certification label plus lot number and keep from overpaying for "natural" products.
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9/10/2015 01:51:39 pm
Ross, Please go to the USDA website and you will find the large listing of all the chemicals that are approved for organic farming. If there is an organic sticker on a piece of fruit, it can legally have any of the approved chemicals for that fruit from that list and still be "organic." For example, organic corn farmers can spray bt on their corn to control the worms, and it often takes multiple sprayings throughout the growing season.
Kate
9/10/2015 05:20:22 pm
Ross,
Ross
9/11/2015 01:58:28 pm
Again, thnx Sue and Helena. As you may suspect I am a certified organic producer. At on point have I added a synthetic chemical to my land. Chemical free in our world is probably impossible. A few years ago a shipment of brown flax was hung up in Europe because it had minute traces of glyphosate. It was determined through being able to trace shipments that I may be the issue. Having my samples and having followed all protocol in the production, I was confused! Turns out that the amount was from atmospheric contamination. This is the same air we breath. A sidebar to this is my daughter, who had lived on an acreage outside of Taber, Alberta, couldn't use the ground water. Apparently growing potatoes is chemical intensive. Another sidebar is in my local area we grow large acreage of lentils. They use roundup for a desiccant. Interestingly, they have to keep an area unsprayed for seed as Roundup kills the germ in the seed. They also do this on wheat and durum. Gives one pause for thought. I don't deal with corn so can only take what you say as truth. My Canadian contract may be different but if I request an OK to use any product I have been denied ie insecticide. I pay by the acre to be policed. The farm is inspected and all book work has to be meticulous. I just finished preparing my combine for a different organic crop. It took me 1 1/2 hrs. Another of Kate's points that fell short was (a farmers dilemma on feeding the world). I trust that most farmers are outstanding characters but it all comes down to making money. I would like to hear from Kate and compare energy use, production, and profit margins.
Kate
9/11/2015 02:10:55 pm
Ross,
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9/11/2015 02:35:44 pm
I am with you Kate. I am very surprised to see someone who is actually in the organic farming industry try and use this particular format to spread propaganda.
Ross
9/12/2015 06:53:17 pm
Kate, Thnx for replying! Wow, Sue, I didn't know I was spreading propaganda! It appears if one doesn't have the sme point of view, one is an idiot! This is the perfect forum for me to comment! No one system is correct! Farming since I started is in flux. Great advances in equipment! As an organic farmer, I follow protocol to the letter to supply a synthetic free product! If this is worth more, the consumer will decide! Again, at the supermarket or at the farmers market, natural means very little unless you know and trust the producer. Certified organic is stamped with a lot number. We must prove that we did not use any restricted sprays or fertilizers! Conventional produce doesn't have a list of synthetic chemicals and fertilizers used in the production of grain, fruits or any other food. Can chemicals be transferred to seed? My story of lentil germ being sterile would suggest it can. I doubt if any of my neighbours would eat their own lentils. Of course, culturally, we weren't raised using lentils as a protein source, so we have no taste for them. Interestingly, lentil crops that have been sprayed with roundup can be sold immediately as human food but the straw residue can't be baled and used as cattle feed unless it has sat for a number of weeks. Seems strange! Kate, you should have my e-mail, if not I can provide. 30 plus years as a conventional farmer, less than 8 as organic! I know and understand both farming practices. Well, at least how we farm in this area. Thnx again'
David
9/9/2015 10:27:34 pm
Thanks I Really liked this post!
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Bruce Edwards
9/10/2015 01:54:14 am
I understand your point of view. I would appreciate your thoughts on the approach this farmer uses (link below). I will state right off that his farm is much smaller than yours and his aims are different.
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Kate
9/10/2015 08:44:36 am
Hey Bruce - I actually responded to you ^^^ up above on the first link you posted. Thank you!!
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gabe Thompson
9/10/2015 11:10:16 am
Thank you for writing this. As producers, we have been led down the path you mention of being told not to have frank discussions with consumers because the "experts" do not believe it will resonate. I don;t get "angry" per se, but I do indeed get disgusted by consumers who claim to be so concerned with the food choices they have but yet do not take the time to really get to the truth about the food they consume.
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Kate
9/10/2015 11:13:56 am
Thank you so much for your comments Gabe!! I agree with you!
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Michelle
9/10/2015 01:36:30 pm
Thanks for the great article! As a scientist (not in agriculture), I am often overwhelmed and angry at the lack of understanding and the willingness of the average consumer to embrace the organic, anti-GMO propaganda. I agree, we need to hear more from farmers.
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James
9/10/2015 05:29:45 pm
I have to say, these are the exact kind of bleeding heart blogs that make the average consumer roll their eyes and think farmers are hyper-defensive and not worth listening to. The part where you admit that sometimes it gets to you... that's where I stop reading and caring.
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Kate
9/10/2015 07:49:30 pm
Hi James!
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Maxine
9/10/2015 10:54:37 pm
You have done a fantastic job of expressing the frustrations of trying to educate the consumer about the high skill level and vast knowledge base that the current crop of farmers have and use to produce the food that makes up the everyday meal for consumers. My frustration level has also been high when, as a third generation western Canadian grain farmer (born with the love of rural life, the land, the people who work and play there successfully and understanding of the cycles of work, weather etc. and their affects on food production, flowing in my veins!) and a university degree to back up the science I speak of .....all a waste of breath when one confronts an urbanite who after seeking your opinion - says either in words or actions : "Please don't confuse me with the facts ....,,I already have my mind made up!!!!!"
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H. Beale
9/11/2015 12:31:04 am
Hello Kate, Corn and soybean are grown to feed to animals and some corn is grown to power people's cars. This is simply stupid and benefits no one except the ag industry. Animal agriculture is the single-largest emitter of greenhouse gases. So I don't really see how your farm feeds the world? You rather contribute to destroying this planet. The illusion of money is worth more than a healthy planet, I guess. Oh well.
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Will From Australia
9/11/2015 01:54:37 am
You know, H Beale, that until early last century my Grandpa on my fathers side used to breed horses for the purpose of pulling poughs and trailers and moving people, and the other grandpa on my mothers side used to cut commercial quantities of cereal hay for the express purpose of feeding draft animals. Of course they both ran a lot of sheep, so between them they supplied Horsepower, fuel, textiles and food for people. Then along came Messers DuPont, Henry Ford and Standard Oil, and 3 of the four pillars of agriculture became redundant.
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H. Beale
9/11/2015 06:38:35 pm
You will have to try harder, Will. Pasture-raised and grass-fed animals are worse than feedlot-raised animals as to climate impact. Just think about the land that we would need. Not enough on this planet. By the way, good luck with your drought and grass-fed livestock down there! Let me know how it's going to play out for you. Oh and before I forget, how much meat was consumed on average per capita during the time of your grandpa as opposed to nowadays?
Harley
10/2/2015 10:12:14 am
I'm with you there.
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Ben Kane
9/11/2015 09:14:16 am
Thanks for the info and you are right, I grew up on a farm until I was 15, we lost everything (three bad years in a row). We sent soil samples off to make sure we didnt put to much or to little fertilizer and to see if it needed liming. We rotated crops, moved the hogs in that rotation. Anyhow I do garden now and experiment all the time but I know I am so far out of the loop that I would be scared to tell someone the best practice for farming.
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Donna Moenning
9/11/2015 11:25:59 am
Beautifully written with such honesty and feelings. Thank you!
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Linda Hopper
9/15/2015 06:07:44 am
From this Canadian farm wife ...... a Huge THANK YOU for putting my EXACT thoughts into a well written letter! Your thoughts are right on!
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Kate
9/15/2015 08:52:01 am
Thank you Linda, please do share!! I love all the Canadian farmers that have visited!!
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Chris de Jong
9/15/2015 11:44:37 am
Dutch IT professional here, just here to say that this was a great read and i'm happy that you're combating all the misinformation out on the Internet!
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Claude Glover
9/15/2015 12:09:30 pm
In recent years, I've gardened a tiny urban plot, and two years ago I was a guest for a few days at a communal farm, and while there I put in 8 hours of hard labor tending the crops. Both experiences, totally negligible in the big picture, have taught me to extrapolate the difficulties to large-scale operations and come to the conclusion that I'm damn lucky to have ya'll out there. I personally am glad to be a customer of store-bought food and also small scale local operations. There's a need for both and I'm glad for the efforts of all. I've become more educated on the GMO issue and am getting better at filtering the propaganda from the anti side. Thanks for sharing your perspective.
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Mark Sponsler
9/16/2015 11:42:42 am
Thank you, Kate. You nailed it. Thanks for putting words to what frustrates so many of us who work, sacrifice, engage and risk in production agriculture.
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srinivasa reddy
9/17/2015 10:40:24 am
You have scribbled the other angle of the agriculture. I am thankful to all especially to the topic owner for enlightening about the seriousness in the profession. Hitherto I was in mirth that organic farming is all good for health etc . thing s and the general food brought from groceries or supermarkets is all chemical treated like sort. Some decades back there was lack of food grains. Farming is a serious profession and a lot of research and standardised practices are being followed all over the world. As result of which today many developing nations do not have food scarcity.
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Caitlin
9/23/2015 04:44:45 am
Thank you for this. I'm one of the people who doesn't know enough, so I really appreciate you teaching me.
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Thank you for saying what I have a had a hard time trying to put together in my head. You said what so many of us feel in our hearts in such a great way. Thank you!! Thanks for linking up to the Country Fair Blog Party. I do hope you will join us again with your latest wildly popular post. :D
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Joe C
10/31/2015 05:57:36 am
Also wanted to add my thanks for both the post and especially all the wonderful information sources you linked. I'm not personally a farmer, but I know a few, visit regularly, and am utterly fascinated by modern farming and farm technology. And, as a city rat who's amazingly happy to only be paying that 10%, I just wanted to thank you and all the other farmers who responded here for the amazing work you do. And I'll do my best to keep educating those around me.
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Philip Dobeck
11/27/2015 08:59:45 pm
I was quite excited to read your post in the Ohio “Farm and Dairy” newspaper. Thank you for your post and the factual information you provided. You successfully covered all the bases. We have a small farm and woodlands and I am also a beekeeper. I have been directly approached with comments like “since you have Honeybees you probably really hate Monsanto”. I usually take a deep breath and I try to use this as a teaching moment to explain why I don’t hate them and why I think GMO’s and modern agriculture are a positive for the world.
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